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Having grown up (metal wise at least) in the early 00's, i use to think that Metalcore was the sound made by bands such as KSE, God Forbid and the likes. But i guess the genre has more changes than i thought. Oddly odd way of making me feel old. 🤣🤷🏻

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First of all, I just wanted to say that, although the negative reviews are great because they're more hilarious than anything else, positive reviews should also exist and people should watch them and, possibly so, be exposed to a new band or style of music that they might not have heard but want to explore. And frankly, that's what happened with me over the years. My personal Metalcore journey has been split into two chapters. Chapter one was me finally getting to explore new music that my strict upbringing wouldn't allow me to, and from 2000-2004, I was there for the start of the careers of bands such as Trivium, Avenged Sevenfold, Killswitch Engage, Unearth, and Bleed from Within. As time went on, I stuck with some of these bands as my musical taste changed and so did some of them, namely A7X who bent all kinds of genres into one they liked, and Trivium, who had started to veer ever so close to Metallica and Disturbed worship. Chapter two started in 2018, when I started working at a job that, while I enjoyed it, there was a lot of negative aspects that affected mentally, and the sounds of people screaming made me feel better and helped me through some really tough days. In this group, I will highlight Architects, Northlane, Alpha Wolf, BMTH, Knocked Loose, Code Orange, Jinjer, Employed to Serve, Currents, Cancer Bats, Wristmeetrazor, SeeYouSpaceCowboy, Converge, Thou (before they got really doomy), White Chapel (before they kind of sanded their edges somewhat) He Is Legend (same as before), and Ice Nine Kills (starting at Every Trick In The Book). And so that brings me up to today where, while I do enjoy the Core bands that I have enjoyed for years (and also more recently turn of the century ones like END), I will lament that, every genre does have its high points and its low points. Every genre of music has gems and turds, it is up to the listener to pick and choose what they enjoy. Great video though, Robert, thanks for sharing all of this with us.

Burnt by the sun and Turmoil? Legendary records from them😎

A lot of metalcore are not what I listen to , but I like Killswitch Engage, Chimaira and God Forbid just to mention a few

looks like King Diamond tickets already sold out even Testament and Kreator and Wasp and Sepultura Tickets did not sell out i guess everyone wants to see King Diamond the most

They musta missed the reviews of Metalcore singles and albums where you say the reviewed content is "fiiiiine".

There exist good metalcore bands -- Gold, Frankincense and Myrrh are my friends and Ultraviolet is pretty good, Killswitch Engage is worth a spin. I also think it mixes well with melodeath with stuff like Spoil Engine.

I was honestly fine the 70s inside prog without the growls I honestly liked damnation but honestly if they are doing growlsb again that's bonus that sounds really cool and awesome and epic

I saw DEP on their first tour with Greg Puciato, which was also Botch's last tour (until it wasn't). All Else Failed and Darkest Hour were also on the bill. I didn't understand the connection these bands had to hardcore, or even that it was a "scene" unto itself. If you asked me at the time who my favorite bands were, I would have listed them right alongside the mishmash of Slayer, Meshuggah, Strapping Young Lad, Nasum, Cannibal Corpse, and Pig Destroyer I was listening to. To me it was all just "metal". I had absolutely no one else to talk to about this music at the time, so I wasn't even aware of all the various "-core" subgenres until years later. It may have been Job For A Cowboy that made me aware of the hatred more traditional metalheads have for "-core". By that time, I was on a few different online forums, and the bile was palpable. Kinda wish I could go back.

we are so back

It's not Angelcorpse.

Personally, I prefer when metalcore had closer ties and took more obvious influences from melodic death metal, but even some of the stuff that drops now is absolutely killer. Dead by April is a band that comes to mind. Imminence's use of symphonic elements is what drew me to them also.

One of my favorite metal core bands is Bury Tomorrow. Their album Black Flame is in my opinion their best album; crunchy, heavy, riffs, melodic but still very enjoyable.

Definitely can't go wrong with The Chariot either

You forgot dying wish sir

I used to like Jack Black. Now I wouldn't like to be friends with him, if he is going to throw me under the bus for saying some stupid over the top joke, just because of franchise money.

I would also throw in the British band Loathe. They blend metalcore with Deftones inspired alternative metal and a lot of ambient stuff as well.

Metalcore was my favourite metal genre growing up of a teenager in the early 2010s, which is why I still have a soft spot for it today. I grew up right between the melodic death metal inspired scene bubble bursting, and the rise of the scenecore/electronicore movement that would be a staple of Warped Tour going forward. So my favourite metalcore bands are a mix of those two kinds: Killswitch Engage, old Asking Alexandria, all the Bring Me the Horizon, I See Stars, Woe Is Me, Issues, As I Lay Dying, Miss May I and many more! Also, I do not think of Sleep Token as a metalcore band; they are their own thing.

It's fantastic and the return of the growl

I agree. Unearth doesn't get enough love. Fresh ocean mountain water for Darkest Hour.

Gotta say the late 90s to the early 00s was the best era for the subgenre. I appreciate the other forms of metalcore to a finer degree, but the first to second eras were completely uncompromising.

You don't, but I do😈😈😈

I definitely do agree that there's a lot of generic and overproduced modern metalcore out there, especially nowadays. However, I don't think all metalcore is bad. It does have its issues, and it's not my favorite subgenre of metal, but it isn't entirely bad either.

Converge is without a doubt my favorite hardcore band. No one does it better.

It’s funny how metal elitists treat people saying they like metalcore as people who just shat on their face

Any chance you'd do a "Screamo bands/albums I love"? Like, Orchid, pg. 99 or modern stuff like State Faults, Respire, Blind Girls, Frail Body, etc. I'd watch the fuck out of that.

Never really got into metalcore. I may give it another shot and check out some of the bands you mentioned, though. I do love Bleed from Within from their fourth album (Era) onwards and their third album is decent too. I also love Raunchy, mostly their first four albums (Wasteland Discotheque in particular is awesome). However, both of these bands pull a lot of influences from other genres and subgenres, so I don't think they're necessarily very representative of what it means to be a metalcore band. I tried to get into Trivium when they were first getting quite big, but it just never clicked with me - I just didn't find their song writing that great and felt most of their songs didn't hang together very well, at least to my ears. I'm sure they've released a few more albums since then, though, so that may well have changed.

Thrashin Jackson is just Metal Bobert's Slim Shady, tell me im wrong

I love your channel buddy. And I also agree motionless in white and sleep token sucks ass.

KEN Mode has been my if not top 5 Metalcore bands. I know they are primarily considered as “Noise Rock” but they are pretty Metalcore throughout their discography (more noticeable on their works before reshaping themselves on the Steve Albini-produced Success in which RIP) They’re like the weird creation of Converge and Botch that somehow had the DNA of Jesus Lizard and Unsane into the mix. Favourite record is VOID as that album really gives more depth to the band and supports the sister album NULL really well.

Gives me Watershed mixed with Heritage vibes pumped for this release.

Love the genre so here some gems that some folks don’t know about. 90s metalcore Prayer for cleansing - The Rain In Endless Fall (Melocore with sick breakdowns) 1999 Unruh - Setting Fire To Sinking Ships (Arizona Grindy Metalcore) 1999 Unbroken - life.love.regret (Sick slayer infused metalcore) 1994 Liar - Invictus (Belgium Straight Edge metalcore with lots of slayer riffs) 1997 Spread the Disease - We Bleed From Many Wounds (Blackened Metalcore) 1998 2000s metalcore Undying - The Whispered Lies of Angels (Melodic Metalcore that influenced the black dahlia murder) 2000 Misery Signals - Controller (Progressive Metalcore that influenced every band) 2008 Blood Has Been Shed - Spirals (Howard Jones band pre kse really brutal) 2003 Eighteen Visions - Until The Ink Runs Out (Brutal Metalcore)2000 Skycamefalling - 10.21 (Metalcore in the vein of Poison the Well) 2000 2010s+ Vein.fm - Errorzone (Mathcore with a turntable) 2018 Sanction - Broken in Refraction (Revival metalcore in the vein of chamber, serration, Jesus piece) 2019 Fromjoy - Fromjoy (Mathcore with drum and bass and vaporwave influence) 2023 Realm of Torment - Ytenes Collapse (Brutal Melodic Metalcore) 2022

Metalcore gets a lot of underserved hate from all the Warped Tour-core bands that incorporate pop and electronic elements sloppily. However, old school metalcore that just takes influence from hardcore and know how to play their instruments and write great songs are the ones that deserve the acclaim. Here would be my favorite metalcore albums: Converge - Jane Doe Botch - We Are the Romans The Dillinger Escape Plan - Miss Machine Killswitch Engage - The End of Heartache All That Remains - The Fall of Ideals As I Lay Dying - An Ocean Between Us Shadows Fall - The War Within Unearth - The Oncoming Storm Trivium - Shogun Zao - Where Blood and Fire Bring Rest Every Time I Die - Gutter Phenomenon Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child The Chariot - The Fiancée August Burns Red - Messengers Parkway Drive - Horizons Knocked Loose - A Different Shade of Blue Code Orange - Forever Architects - Lost Forever // Lost Together Caliban - The Opposite from Within Darkest Hour - Deliver Us

Not the biggest metalcore fan but Damnation A.D. is my favorite classic metalcore band. Varials and Mouth For War is pretty good when it comes to more modern ones.

I love metal core. It’s actually one of my favorite genres. You just have to find the right stuff because there are a lot of metal core bands that really experiment with their sound, but there are also a lot of bands who are really generic and stick with the same formula. I’m glad you mentioned trivium. Trivium is one of my favorite bands, especially their later records where they really get technical and experiment with their sound. You also can’t forget about more hard-core, sounding bands like code orange. Personally, I like how they went with more of an industrial sound on albums like underneath because in my personal opinion, I like industrial metal and industrial rock groups like fear factory, ministry, and Rammstein. there are also some really good melodic metal core bands that I really like, for example bury tomorrow, and bleed from within. So overall, there are some great metal core bands that are really doing different things with the genre and making the genre more diverse, but there are also more generic bands, like motionless and white and ice nine kills, that are not as good. I will listen to those bands if I feel like listening to something more melodic or just in a hard rock/modern mainstream metal mood, but I don’t listen to them all the time.

I never would have even heard of Sleep Token if not for Melty talking about how terrible they are so often. Same for Psycho Sinner, Dungeon Wolf, and Falling in Reverse.

If you can, check out the Belgian mathcore band called BEAR. The last album is called VANTA It f-cking rips

Just like any other genre, the good stuff exists. You just have to dig for it.

I don't mind metalcore, it's the deathcore that I don't like. I can't stand it

I would also throw in "Make them suffer", as one of the best modern metalcore bands. They got the hardcore influence but also insane choruses and riffs; about as good as the genre can get imo. Still, great video regardless!

Code Orange's last effort didn't convince me. Of course, it was a delusional goal to try to top the previous album. Maybe I should revisit the last album...

You gave every negative description abt yourself aside from “cynical” muhaha A lot of metalcore seems way too “poppy” in an odd way. Love Job for a Cowboy and Vulvodynia a ton though. And numbers do lie, regularly. Statistics being a priiiiiiiiime example. I do like hearing positive reviews from you though. It seems rare and I really like it when you love an album.

Metalcore is a favorite of mine to this day. I love bands from every wave pretty much. Here's my top faves: 1. Motionless in White 2. Bring Me the Horizon 3. Killswitch Engage 4. After the Burial 5. Hatebreed Honorable mentions: Knocked Loose, As I Lay Dying, Spiritbox, Of Mice & Men, The Devil Wears Prada, Avenged Sevenfold (early), and Black Veil Brides (early). I never got the impression that you hate the genre. Just that negative reviews will garner more attention than positive ones. We may not share the same opinions but I don't give a shit. I really enjoy you and your channel. And I love hearing your thoughts on things. Have a nice day! \m/

Remember in late 2000s there's was Crabcore or Electronicore whatever you want to called it like Attack Attack, I See Stars, Early Asking Alexandra, Abandon All Ships? I thought those bands were really silly and goofy.

Everyone talks about all the east coast Metalcore bands of the 90’s being super influential, but honestly I’m kinda pissed that no one talks about the Minnesotan bands like Disembodied or Martyr A.D. As a Minnesotan myself, if y’all wanna know where you got those discordant riffs from… y’all got it from us, pal lol.

In general, I tend to like metalcore that has its roots in hardcore/punk. Obviously, 90's metalcore is among my favourites, but even more so are bands that could be considered very popular in the metal scene are sick as well (Killswitch, As I Lay Dying, Shadows Fall and bands from the "New Wave of American Heavy Metal" generation have plenty of roots in 90's hardcore). Where it starts to lose me is when it doesn't have that hardcore/punk connection, which you start to see in bands that came up after around 2006 or so; those bands took the good cop/bad cop vocals of a band like Killswitch, but removed the hardcore/punk element. Another consequence of this shift is the breakdown itself; in the early days of metalcore (around 1990-2006), breakdowns were mostly used for crowd participation (moshing, singalongs, pile-ups and stage diving). Nowadays, I feel like most metalcore uses the breakdown to flex musicianship and "brutality for the sake of brutality", which, in my opinion, kind of goes against the notion that a breakdown is something meant to bring the band and audience closer together. tldr: i like metalcore with at least a little bit of hardcore/punk, and breakdowns I can mosh to

Metalcore only gets a bad rap from the 2000's where metalcore became an ambiguous term also describing a lot of the Warped Tour era post-hardcore bands. In the last 10 years however, metalcore has seemingly redeemed itself and looped back around to the more traditional 90's tough guy stuff. Not to mention a lot of the Maggot Stomp death metal bands that hardcore dudes love now are a fusion of oldschool metalcore and death metal calling back to Upheaval, Odious Sanction etc.

Some of those bands are more metallic hardcore for me. But its true metalcore had other meaning in the 90s. A lot of people think metalcore is melo death with hardcore breakdowns and whiny vocals. And thats a kinda stereorype people believe for how the tag was use.